@a4477 said in #85:
> Are you telling me there are extremists in Israel? Trust me, I know them better than you. These fools are not minors about the West Bank. Don't believe everything you are told in the media. The situation there is complex. Note that all the possibilities you raised are possible that the war was started by Israel and the Palestinians have no fault in it and this is exactly the problem because you can say that the war was started in 1948 by Israel and I can say that it started in 1947 by the Bedouin Arabs or even by the Arabs probably in 1929 You can say that it was established by Israel Israel in 2014 in Operation Cliff Ethan and I will tell you that Hamas started it when they kidnapped and murdered 3 Israeli boys before that you understand? Stop presenting it as if there is one angelic side here and there is a side that always starts for no reason
My answer to all this:
Open Google or any search engine of your choice
Type on the search bar: is the Israel settlement in Palestine legal
Then tell me what you find
If you come to someone's house and steal it and take control over it, and they fight you back, by pure logic you are the one who started the war
If we go on your path and justify violence with violence, then in all cases we will come back at the point you came in, took land that isn't yours, Palestinians fought back, you didn't like them fighting back so you genocide them back.
You cannot convince me your settlement in palestine is legal because everyone already agrees it isn't
@a4477 said in #86:
> 1 Yes, videos of Hamas fighters entering houses and shooting at ambulances are enough for you?
Do you think I am an idiot, seriously do you think hamas are idiots, do you think they will "film" themselves doing something that will lose them national support, we are not potato bags, what you are saying is like a criminal filmed himself committing a crime and sent the video to the police, or if it was filmed by someone else, 1) how dis that person survive, If a criminal saw witnesses wouldn't they eliminate them 2) wouldn't they if the video got posted deny or reply to it, 3) if they really hated jews as you say, look at the hostages and how they were treated, and compare that to Palestinian hostages taken by the idf
Or the ambulance wasn't a civilian ambulance and was transporting militants (same excuse you use to bomb hospitals) thus isn't it justified in that case
And also!!!! In the last forum topic you literally told me THAT VIDEOS ARE NOT ENOUGH OF A PROOF WHEN I SENT A VIDEO OF WHAT THE IDF DOES??????????? Or your videos are a proof and mine are not
And the idf has a history in faking videos lmao like they are faking videos now of their solders fighting hamas (literally they couldn't even show the target they are shooting and kept shooting a wall lmao) you tell me the idf can't just take a solder and make him wear hamas like cloths and make him shoot an ambulance, I mean you have a history in doing as such
> 2 Who told you that the picture of the burning man is a lie? This has never been proven and has even been proven false and besides there are many more pictures. Haven't you seen the videos from Rantisi Hospital? Didn't you see the tunnel at the entrance to Shifa Hospital? Didn't you see the gun caps by the MRI machine? Or the armed vehicle in the hospital parking lot?
The picture of the burning *child that was used by the idf and posted was proven to be fake if you just take the time to open Google
The tunel in the hospital, yeah, hamas aren't that small lol to go through it besides if you bomb the hospital it is going to destroy the hospital only and the tunels wouldn't be affected at all lol, what logic are you using, you destroy the hospital and leave the tunel intact
The guns in the mri machine, so how to explain it to you, hamas would hide big weapons because they wouldn't be able to carry them, but guns? Because if the idf attacks they would be like: give me a minut to open the machine, give me a minut to reload my gun, give me one more minut I forgot to remove safety, ok now we can fight, guns are made to be carried, and biger weapons are made to be hidden
And what do you have to say about the past events when you bombed a hospital because of hamas and there was no hamas
Or the nurse who was saying there was hamas and turned out to be an actress, or the calendar that was called hamas fighters list lmao
Sir, you lie shamelessly thinking we are idiots, you know you lie and we know you lie and you know we know and yet you keep onlying