Avoiding players who win all their games

Hi all,

I play a lot of casual chess because I find losing rating to be (surprisingly) annoying and I try to get it back, although I've never understood why, given that they're just "magic internet points" that prove nothing and are worth nothing :)

I've also noticed there are tons of players who win 95% or 99% of their casual games and are therefore ratings trolls or similar.

Why doesn't Lichess implement a button that says "avoid matching with players who have won more than 95% (or 90% or 99%) of their last 100 games. You get the idea. This way the genuine players could play amongst themselves and the smurfs could play amongst themselves and pick on people their own size. And people who didn't mind could be paired against the smurfs if they wanted to be by unchecking the button.

Or there could be a warning label on the account of anyone who has won the vast majority of their past 100 games, so that you don't feel bad if you get crushed by them.

I know it sounds like a small problem but I bet that a lot of the low rated players would agree with this and it would disincentivise smurfing.

Who's with me?

What are you talking about? You are much higher rated than an average lichess player.

@pointlesswindows I still sometimes play people rated 1200? who win 99% of their games including against me, It must be even more annoying for the real 1200s to be pulverized into mincemeat by those dudes (and there are a lot of them).

I guess this is a suggestion for a novel way to filter out the dodge players - look at actual win rate. Anyone winning 90%+ (or 99%+) of their games is obviously cheating the system somehow (either a smurf or engine user or something else) and it doesn't require complex engine analysis so very easy to find, hard to argue against (how did someone win 90% of your games if they are genuine?) and would filter out a lot of bad actors.

Wouldn't this just devolve into "ratings trolls" making a new account every 100 games to dodge the filter?

I think accurately matching players by rating in casual matches, which don't update rating based on result, is just an intractable problem. You're basically shoehorning a second rating system into casual matches.

The interesting part about this topic is it was created by a 2000+ rated player... Let me tell you why you find losing to be "annoying"; even though it was denied in another topic, I'll reiterate what I stated and will stand firm on it: you are self-aware that you can learn more about chess than you currently do, and you want to advance. Once you fill that capacity, losing will eventually become fun -- because you'll have proven to yourself by that time what you are capable of

@pointlesswindows said in #2:
> What are you talking about? You are much higher rated than an average lichess player.

Exactly, like this dude a fide
master

Rule #1: Don't play casual. It's policed much less than rated games.

@Gusticus In lichess, there is an option to hide your ratings. I have done that for a week i think. I dont know what my rating is, what my opponents rating is, and what any of you guys rating is either. its awesome.